For this week’s episode, podcast hosts Cat Jacoby and John Pulley have an open and frank conversation about the recent Atlanta-area massage parlor murders and whether or not it is a crime motivated by racial hate or whether there were other factors involved.

While we are not minimizing the plight of Asian-Americans in the current social climate, we also feel that neglecting to unpack the layers of this results in great injustice for the victims and their stories.

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